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A Response To Women Regarding Starling’s “Schrödinger’s Rapist”

October 12th, 2009

I'll save you! A respected friend of mine (who happens to be a feminist) sent me a link to “Schrödinger’s Rapist: or a guy’s guide to approaching strange women without being maced.” I wouldn’t have read the article at all, had it not been for the recommendation from my friend. After reading it and stewing on it, I’m going to respond. I’m responding not only to the author, but more so to the women who identify with the post itself.

In this blog post, I want to do what I feel Phaedra Starling failed to do. I’m going to attempt to talk about this topic across the gender line. It took me 4 different sessions to read her blog post from start to finish. The first few times, indignation overtook me. I suspect I’m not alone as the comments appear to have been heavily moderated before being closed.

To openly express my full and complete opinion on this piece would likely serve to infuriate and enrage a feminist audience as much as this piece infuriated and enraged me. This does nothing to establish a dialog or help anyone grow and evolve. Thus, I’m going to attempt to focus on a few core concepts that, while perhaps hard to swallow, might just make it to the mental digestive tracks of those who found Starling’s article to be inspiring. I’m sure it will still be bias, I am human and I’m wrong a lot. Still, I want to speak up here.

Comments on Insult

Before I get constructive, I have to take a few paragraphs to cite a reasons why this article is insulting towards many men.

First, there’s the “you are a good guy” dialog. This is presented in such a way that suggests Starling has some sort of empathy towards men. Almost immediately, it becomes clear that these words are not written in empathy nearly so much as a failed attempt to placate. There’s also the student/teacher metaphor used in the writing. This sets a dominating and oppressive tone towards men. Feminist should know by now that being oppressive is not effective.

Beyond the tone and approach, this piece blatantly promotes the notion that all men are rapists until proven innocent. Rape is a horrible crime and those found guilty of rape are usually strongly punished. However, accusations of false rape often destroy the lives of innocent men. While the damage done to the victim in false charge cases rivals that of rape cases, the punishment for false charge is relatively insignificant. Being falsely accused of rape is a real and terrifying concern for many men. Starling’s approach of openly labeling men as guilty does not help bridge the gap with her supposed audience of men.

Content Analysis

Now that I’ve called attention to the oppressive and threatening components of Starling’s piece, I’ll focus on a constructive analysis of the content itself. I am about to draw a few conclusions based on evidence found in the blog post itself (as quotes).

So far, so good. Miss LonelyHearts, your humble instructor, approves.

There are two take-away items from this line. The first is the voice Starling is speaking from, “Miss LonelyHearts.” While this entire blog post pretends to be targeted at men, I believe it is really written for a world full of “Miss LonelyHearts.” She, Miss LonelyHearts, will be are focus from now on. From now on, we will refer to her as She. Given her name, we form our first plank.

Plank 1: She is lonely.

There is a second take-away item from the line above. This is demonstrated in two parts. The first is the self-given title of instructor. The second is playing the role of deciding approval or disapproval. From this we can take our second plank.

Plank 2: She sees herself as dominant over men.

To begin with, we would rather not be killed or otherwise violently assaulted.

“But wait! I don’t want that, either!”

Well, no. But do you think about it all the time? Is preventing violent assault or murder part of your daily routine, rather than merely something you do when you venture into war zones?

Without citing statistics on who the most common victims of violent crime are, lets go directly to drawing information out of this quote. On to another plank.

Plank 3: She’s concerned about violent assault and murder all the time. She fears being assaulted.

Do you follow rules like these?

Yes, I do follow rules, but don’t let me get off track. Miss LonelyHeart has a clear set of rules based on her fear. These rules apply directly to her social behavior.

Plank 4: She has an established set of dating rules.

One in every six American women will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime. … then the concentration of rapists in the population is still a little over one in sixty

This entire paragraph is rich with logistical error (read the original post, or this post or this one, for the omitted content). While she uses these stats to support a fear of strangers, 83.8% of rapes occur from someone the victim knows. Furthermore, Starling mixes sexual assault and rape stats, two distinctly different acts. Starling’s use of poor logic and statistics conveys a much more threatening perspective than reality.

Plank 5: She is willing to delude herself and others to validate her fear.

To begin with, you must accept that I set my own risk tolerance.

This is a demand. While obvious, since we all set our own risk tolerance, this commentary is delivered as a directive.

Plank 6: She wants control.

Those women do not want to be approached, no matter how nice you are or how much you’d like to date them. Okay? That’s their right. Don’t get pissy about it. Women are under no obligation to hear the sales pitch before deciding they are not in the market to buy.

No where is it said in any of our governing documents that we have the right not to be approached. It is their right to not want to be approached, as is inferred by the line “pursuit of happiness.” However, the freedom of speech also gives us the right to speak to anyone in a public place.

Plank 7: She sees control of first contact as a right.

The second important point: you must be aware of what signals you are sending by your appearance and the environment. We are going to be paying close attention to your appearance and behavior and matching those signs to our idea of a threat.

Starling is now saying that She will evaluate you based on how your appearance and behavior rate against her own criteria. Note that Starling specifically says “our idea of threat.” She’s now free to judge a man’s character based on things such as the color of your skin, how wealthy you appear, or if you have the ability to color coordinate.

Plank 8: She passes judgment based on circumstantial evidence.

You are a threat, remember? You are Schrödinger’s Rapist.

Starling consistently reminds her proposed male reader that he is perceived as a threat. However, Starling cleverly leaves out words such as “perceived” and goes directly to blatantaly calling the proposed male reader a rapist.

Plank 9: She perceives all men as threatening.

There’s a man with whom I went out on a single date—afternoon coffee, for one hour by the clock—on July 25th. In the two days after the date, he sent me about fifteen e-mails, scolding me for non-responsiveness. I e-mailed him back, saying, “Look, this is a disproportionate response to a single date. You are making me uncomfortable. Do not contact me again.” It is now October 7th. Does he still e-mail?

Yeah. He does. About every two weeks.

This is one side of a story. It would be unfair to assume too much from the other side. What we do know is that during this date Starling was precise about the time, the date was for coffee, and that there was one date. We also know Starling was scolded for non-responsiveness. Here we can only assume that she was not responding to him. She also expresses frustration when he continues to contact her.

Plank 10: She is upset by men who do no behave the way she wants them to.

You see, Mr. E-mail has made it clear that he ignores what I say when he wants something from me. Now, I don’t know if he is an actual rapist, and I sincerely hope he’s not. But he is certainly Schrödinger’s Rapist, and this particular Schrödinger’s Rapist has a probability ratio greater than one in sixty. Because a man who ignores a woman’s NO in a non-sexual setting is more likely to ignore NO in a sexual setting, as well.

Here we have to be very clever because Starling left out the majority of the story. Even Starling blatantly says she doesn’t know if he is an actual rapist. She makes an assumption based on a man ignoring a woman’s NO. However, and this is the clever part, she never actually says what she said “NO” to. What did this mystery man ask of her? Starling’s only story is about him not following her order to stop contacting her, not that he ever specifically requested anything of her. Why was this omitted from the story? Given Starling’s story, she sets us up for a very troubling plank.

Plank 11: She equates a man not following her orders (to stop contacting her) to rape (NO in a sexual setting).

And each of those messages indicates that you believe your desires are a legitimate reason to override her rights.

This particular line is emphasized with italics in the original text. Again, Starling uses the term “rights”. She weighs the male motivation as “desire” and the female motivation as “rights”. Note that this is in reference to attempting to converse in public with a woman who is not interested. While it is easy to draw a conclusion that a male attempting to pursue a female this way is likely to fail, the use of the term “rights” here is no mistake.

Plank 12: She perceives some of her own desires as personal rights, when there are no laws or scriptures supporting her.

And we’re done.

Building a Picture

Now that we have all of these planks, lets do something with them. Let’s put our planks together: She is a lonely (1), insecure (3), controlling (2,4,6,7,10,12), and delusional (5,8,9,11) woman.

Now, there’s one more crucial bit of information I did not pull from the article because it has nothing to do with She. No, this other bit of information is Him, the guy she’s speaking to (or about) through the whole document. I will skip the lengthy process of quotes and analysis for Him and just straight to it. Him is the guy who is nice, tries hard, is lonely, doesn’t understand women, needs help, gets frustrated, and keeps sending emails and making phone calls when all hope is lost.

Those education in the venetian arts have an acronym for Him: AFC. An AFC is an Average Frustrated Chump. I was, and admittedly in some ways still am, an AFC. In a moment of sheer desperation and utter rejection, I told a woman I desired that I was “a nice guy.” Then I found myself stuck. I was wondering why I would say that. It took a lot of self-honesty and introspection to admit that I wasn’t being nice to be nice, I was being nice to get something in return. I wanted attention, affection, and romance. I was listening to what women told me and being the man they said they wanted in hopes of seeing returns on my investment. I was frustrated, as I’d done everything ever asked, and I was still not being treated the way I wanted to. I was insecure. I had a low self image. I was the man She keeps attracting. I was Him.

In those days, I would have responded to Starling’s post first by empathizing and then by being exactly the man she suggested I should be. I would have done it in an attempt to win her approval, just like in the quote supporting plank 2. And She would never have been attracted to me.

Today, I would avoid Miss LonelyHearts like the plague. The last thing I want in my life is a controlling woman to remind me of what an untrustworthy creature I am. Truth is, I want to have fun before I die. If you’re going to come hang with me, you better be prepared for a wild and crazy ride.

Ladies, those of you who are Miss LonelyHearts, you are still attracting Him, the AFC. Do you find yourselves wondering why you don’t attract men of virility? Do you wonder why the men who approach you turn out to be insecure? Do you feel like they constantly want or need something from you? Is that feeling of neediness what makes you feel threatened?

The man you want knows he has value. The man you want doesn’t need you to validate his self worth. The man you want will never be lured by the concept of rape because he knows he has power over himself – and he knows that’s all he needs.

Miss LonelyHearts will never attract this kind of man. She views his security and confidence as threatening to her own controlling nature. Miss LonelyHearts doesn’t mean to be controlling, it’s just a defensive measure because she’s scared. However, she’s scared because she keeps dwelling on, reading about, talking about, and exposing herself to the things that scare her. In fact, she didn’t even notice the fallacy cited in planks 5, 8, 9, and 11. She’s caught in a downward spiral of blame and fear.

The only way out is to take responsibility and to stop blaming innocent men for your fears. Yes, we men hear your concerns and acknowledge them as legitimate. However, we can’t help you; only you can help you. The only person who will ever bring you a true and reliable sense of security is yourself. Once you find your way through the haze of fear and start living, you will start attracting a different type of man.

When you realize and accept that a decision made from fear is never as powerful as a decision made in love, you will find yourself wading and flowing effortlessly through the seas of the insecure. Instead of oppressing them along the way, walking on them and controlling them, you may find yourself touching them and lifting them up lightly along the way. You might just spread hope.

There are horrible things out there in the world. Don’t let it keep you from experiencing the joy. Wake up. Take responsibility. Love thyself, then love thy sister, and most of all, love thy brother.

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  1. Dave Null
    October 12th, 2009 at 20:23 | #1

    This is brilliant… I have felt these things after reading the same article, but couldn’t express them nearly as eloquently.

    -A former AFC

  2. October 12th, 2009 at 20:56 | #2

    Interesting analysis.

    However, Ms. Starling did have some valid points in her post. I personally have seen several women who get “jumped” because they have refused to give some guy the time of day. It does happen.

    However, my problem with that kind of thinking was that it veered dangerously close to the same kind of discriminatory thinking that victimized African American men in the past and is victimizing Arab people today. When I tried to bring that up, I kept being shot down.

    African American men have suffered doubly from being considered criminals and rapists (primarily of young white women), by society. The fact that these feminist bullies tried to discount that fact and and one particular tried to further humiliate a guy who was raped by two women, just caused me a major degree of disgust….

    However, overall I liked your analysis of the blog. I didn’t completely agree with it, but I liked it nonetheless.

  3. October 12th, 2009 at 21:25 | #3

    @Dave – Thank you.

    @Demonsthen – I agree 100% that she has a very valid point. I’d say that my criticisms revolve 90% around her delivery. I know a lot of women who do not seem to have this on-going fear of rape, yet still have very valid concerns regarding security – stuff ranging from emotional security to physical safety. I think rape may be being used here as a crutch for a much deeper set of issues… but I can’t know this. Thanks for the comment.

  4. rath
    October 14th, 2009 at 15:49 | #4

    Great, interesting read. Thank you for having written this.

  5. Dan
    October 16th, 2009 at 12:45 | #5

    Very well written, I’d read the “Rapist” article and was hoping someone would provide a counterpoint. Imagine what reaction someone would have gotten if they’d written an article “Schrodinger’s Prostitute”, about how all women are potentially prostitutes, since you have no way of knowing if they charge for sex until they’ve had sex with you for free.

  6. October 16th, 2009 at 13:57 | #6

    @Dan – That’s actually a really interesting point. I think such a writing would be a fantastic exercise. I might take a stab at it myself, but I don’t know that I could do it justice. Someone should though, because I can see the opportunity for a lot of well formed counterpoints. It might also help illustrate why the Rapist piece was so derogatory towards men.

  7. October 16th, 2009 at 16:19 | #7

    Not only was the article incredibly bigoted against the vast majority of men — who are law-abiding and peaceful, especially concerning sex crimes — but it also fanned a sense of hysteria and excessive alarm about the true threat of rape in Western industrialized countries.

    I want to provide everyone with some data about just how often men accused of rape are found to actually be NOT GUILTY of the crime (by police, prosecutors, and/or juries). The rates of non-guilt compared to the sheer amount of rape accusations are staggering. Below are the conviction rates for rape in 8 Western industrialized countries or provinces. Whenever a feminist tries to imply that our culture is swimming in rape victimization, point her to the following data. When you get to the particulars and those privy to the evidence in a PARTICULAR case get their chance to evaluate guilt or lack thereof, it turns out that 85-98 percent of the time, rape allegations fail to result in a conviction. Check it out:

    “Cross-National Studies in Crime and Justice” (Sept. 2004)
    Authors: David Farrington, Patrick Langan, Michael Tonry
    Bureau of Justice Statistics (United States Federal Department of Justice)
    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cnscj.pdf

    Jurisdictions surveyed were:

    1. England (and Wales)
    2. Scotland
    3. United States
    4. Australia
    5. Canada
    6. Netherlands
    7. Sweden
    8. Switzerland

    They chose the above countries because of the extensive amount of reliable crime data available in such countries at either the federal or provincial level.

    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    CONVICTION RATES FOR RAPE:

    England/Wales:
    Conviction rate: <3%
    Source: p. 30, figure 4e

    Scotland:
    Conviction rate: 2%
    Source: p. 226, figure 3e

    USA:
    Conviction rate: 15%
    Source: p. 73, figure 5e

    Australia:
    Conviction rate: 7%
    Source: p. 111, figure 5e

    Canada:
    Conviction rate: 13%
    Source: p. 157, figure 3e

    Netherlands:
    Conviction rate: 5%
    Source: p. 190, figure 3e

    Sweden:
    Conviction rate: <2%
    Source: p. 259, appendix table 3

    Switzerland:
    Conviction rate: 3%
    Source: p. 277, figure 4e

  8. October 16th, 2009 at 16:33 | #8

    @John – Interesting and staggering stats. I’d like to know how many cases are not just thrown out for a lack of evidence, but actually proven to explicitly be false accusations. I feel bad for any woman who is assaulted and then unable to prove the case, and I’m sure that is the case in some of these instances. Still, the damage a false rape claim can cause is staggering. It’s too bad that the punishment for being convicted for false claims is relatively minor in comparison. I’m suspect that the false claims only hurt women with legit claims.

  9. October 16th, 2009 at 16:46 | #9

    Well, I believe that fabricated allegations are vastly “under-reported.”

  10. Dan
    October 16th, 2009 at 16:52 | #10

    @Zaskoda

    Feel free to contact me by email if you’d like to discuss ideas, etc. Would love to see this written but I’m not much of a writer.

  11. Rhett Baldwin
    October 17th, 2009 at 18:53 | #11

    Great read, both articles really.

    Many people live in a world disconnected from reality, they think, “I live in a good neighborhood, I don’t have to worry about rape. This doesn’t happen to me, or in my neighborhood.” (or murder, or robbery, or other violence)

    The fact is often times people believe that these are things that you do need to be concerned about until it is too late, these things do happen and can happen anywhere that other people are. The reason is because other people are the leading cause of all violent acts, if you don’t believe me look up the stats. ;)

    However you can’t live you life thinking that everyone you meet may do you harm, unless the people you meet show intent to do you harm. The Schrödinger’s Rapist article is a bit off putting, she encourages women to think of all men as potential rapist without real threat or cause. I wonder what has happened to her to put her into this state of mind, was she raped or a victim of some other form of violence? If so, does she understand how her awareness of her surrounds leading up to the violence may have contributed to her victimization?

    Just like predators in the wild , criminals pray upon the weak. They don’t attack everyone that crosses their path. They attack the prey that looks to be easy.

    I use the following for situation awareness, which I learned about a few years ago, but I’ve been practicing far longer.

    Condition White
    Completely unaware of your surroundings. People should only be in this condition if asleep.

    Condition Yellow
    This is a relaxed condition, and should be the primary condition that most people are in. You are aware of your surroundings, entrances, exits and other people.

    Condition Orange
    This is the potential threat condition, you are aware of a potential threat. While driving this might be the car in the next lane that has has slowed down. On a street at night this is when someone is approaching you, but hasn’t shown a weapon or intent. This is when you observe the potential threat and determine if any action needs to be taken. This is when you look at the situation and determine what you will need to to if things go bad. Doing this now allows you to plan rationally rather than based on a fear response.

    Condition Red
    Observation has revealed that someone/something is a real threat and action must now be taken. Things are going bad. Take action immediately to avoid a confrontation or put yourself into a position of power going into a confrontation.

    Condition Black
    It’s life or death. If you reach this condition without passing through the other stages then you will most likely die or become a victim of some other violence.

  12. Rhett Baldwin
    October 17th, 2009 at 18:57 | #12
  13. JenK
    October 18th, 2009 at 07:37 | #13

    Phenominal. Your use of logic there was inspiring.

    This is what I wrote in response to the original article before noticing the comments were closed.

    Wow….this is nuts. How can you people honestly live like this? I am 5′4″, 115 pounds, and old enough to have a son in college. I have never lived my life in fear. I don’t lock my door, I don’t lock my car door, I don’t usually fear walking in the dark alone. Sure, on occasion I have had moments of fear, but rarely.

    We live in the safest part of the world, and American white women are the safest group in the country. I would be far more afraid if I were a black man, as they are statistically most likely to be assaulted. Women are far less likely to be assaulted than men. Do men walk around in fear? No. Why not?

    Because we have blown rape into such the antichrist that women fear it more than being murdered. We think it is ok that men get assaulted and murdered more because it is not rape. Well, guess what? A person who is beaten to the edge of death or killed would beg to differ (if they could).

    Certainly there is common sense of don’t put yourself in obviously dangerous situations, but men should think the same way. There is a difference between choosing not to go into a secluded downtown area alone at 3 am, and looking at all men as rapists.

    All men are not potential rapists, no more than all women are potential child abusers (a concern of which, according to your metric, all men should be afraid). Looking at the world through rape colored glasses makes you afraid, nothing less, nothing more.

    *end of comment*

    I wish the women there would read all this. I was amazed at how many women were honestly terrified of being raped, as if at any given moment 1 in 6 women were currently being raped. That sort of hysteria is what fuels feminism, the rape fear culture, and keeps them from using higher thought to not only put the threat into perspective but to actually do anything about it. Oh, and sells a lot of Cosmo’s as well as generating lots of feedback for poorly written blogs.

    To be honest, being afraid all the time doesn’t stop them from getting assaulted, it only makes them afraid. It keeps them from fully enjoying life and ironically makes them subjugated to men (or their idea of men.) Go feminism. And people look at ME funny when I say I am an MRA!

  14. February 25th, 2010 at 14:45 | #14

    While I thought the author of the original article was extreme in her viewpoints and overly simplistic in her conclusions, I think you are missing her basic point which was that a woman has no way of knowing if the man who is speaking with her may rape her until he actually tries to rape her and, by then, she may unable to prevent the rape from occurring. I realize that this is unfair to all men, but honestly, the way to change this is not to tell women to get over being raped or to quibble over the statistics or to not judge all men by the bad apples. The way to change it is to acknowledge that rape is wrong, always, and to speak out against rape apologists. Don’t tell or laugh at rape jokes. Look at all the commenters to this post who suggest that women lie about being raped (yeah, it happens, and notice how much media attention those cases get in relation to how much media attention a rape gets, especially if the victim is poor or a member of a minority group) and insist that women shouldn’t live in fear of being raped (this in direct contrast to a pervasive belief in our society that a woman who wears sexy clothes, walks alone at night, talks to strange men, flirts, etc. is “asking for it” if she gets raped–http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2010/02/15/2010-02-15_many_women_think_rape_victims_are_to_blame_for_what_happened_to_them_according_t.html). I am assuming most of the commenters are men who believe that a woman should feel safe with them, but given the attitudes they have towards woman who are raped, women who fear being raped, and feminists, they don’t provide much evidence that they are, in fact, safe to be around.

  15. February 25th, 2010 at 15:14 | #15

    @alimum – I did not miss her basic point; her basic point is both offensive and dangerous. The very notion of assuming an entire demographic to be guilty until proven innocent is considered to be offensive in all cases except when applied against the male gender. Do you support a police officer who questions the black people at a crime scene first because he was once mugged and beaten by a black person? And to your other point about false rape claims, the staggering amount of false claims go largely ignored by the media and, more importantly, relatively unpunished by the law. I believe that women who claim false rape do more to hurt women in general than any rapist ever has. The punishment for conviction of a false rape claim should be exactly the same punishment as a conviction for the rape itself.

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